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Turns out *both* Trey and Monica were right.
You need to bang on it yourself, and you need to get an expert in.

The visit, parts, and labor for the downstairs toilet came to $250 or so. This is a lot more than what Ken charged to replace the workings in our upstairs toilet ($0). However, the plumber's work is guaranteed (Ken's isn't, and his work wasn't perfect - close, but not perfect) and while he was here he also checked our water pressure and the valve that controls it (we've had vibrating pipes for a long time; currently they're not vibrating, but maybe that just means that the valve is working fine right now) and recalibrated what Ken had done to the upstairs toilet, which was apparently also losing water every time we flushed. Float level was set too high.

So, the downstairs toilet shouldn't be running randomly any longer. That's a good thing. However, we're going to have to install the new kitchen sink fixture ourselves. The plumber wanted about $600 ($600!) to install the fixture. Yowzer. We'll try it ourselves first, before we do anything else. I'll take a look at what supplies we'll need in order to do so, and if I have to, will take another run to Home Depot to grab said supplies. No rush, tho...the old fixture still works, even if it's ugly.

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cellio
Jan. 30th, 2002 05:20 am (UTC)
$600?! Wow, you must have some *really* funky plumbing there -- or a plumber who's smoking something good. :-)

You're talking about replacing a faucet, right?
sethcohen
Jan. 30th, 2002 05:33 am (UTC)
Re:
You got it. He can ask for $600, but I'm afraid that I'm not going to give it to him. I'll whack at it myself...or Karen will, depending on which one of us feels most competent.
cellio
Jan. 30th, 2002 05:41 am (UTC)
If you can't figure it out just by looking, I would imagine that a book that explains it would be pretty inexpensive. Come to think of it, there's probably a section on faucets in _How to Fix Damn Near Anything_, the first book I bought as a new homeowner lo these many years ago.

Or, for that matter, the new fixture probably comes with documentation (possibly in English), unless you got it from IKEA in which case it comes with cryptic pictures.
sethcohen
Jan. 30th, 2002 06:11 am (UTC)
Re:
The new fixture has documentation. I've looked it over. It doesn't look that tough, although I've no idea how time consuming removing the old faucet will be, nor how much time it will take to install the new one. I think it's a task for another day, not now.
estherchaya
Jan. 30th, 2002 07:17 am (UTC)
faucet
Yep, the faucet itself comes with documentation (in English!!) I'm all for paying someone to do the things that I'm too incompetent or too lazy to do, but not when it's $600 for something that would take him 20 minutes and he doesn't have to supply any parts! The faucet itself was expensive enough!!!
Anyway, I've actually helped someone do this before, so I don't think it will be too big a deal. And if in doubt, we can go back to Home Depot and ask for some expert advice.
It is these very types of issues that make me wish I were still in the renting universe where I could just call the management office and say "fix this!" Though in that case, I wouldn't be able to get the exact faucet I wanted. So I suppose there are SOME advantages to owning a home (besides the equity you build and the tax break and all that!)
cellio
Jan. 30th, 2002 07:31 am (UTC)
Re: faucet
Yeah, $600 is incentive to become competent, or at least try. :-)
sethcohen
Jan. 30th, 2002 07:40 am (UTC)
Re: faucet
I'm just hoping that if Karen installs it that I don't have to give her $600! 8^)
cellio
Jan. 30th, 2002 07:43 am (UTC)
Re: faucet
Nah, you don't have to give her $600.

You'll just owe her a carbeurator. :-)
sethcohen
Jan. 30th, 2002 07:54 am (UTC)
Re: faucet
But...but...her car's fuel injected! Why should I have to get her a carbeurator??? 8^)
cellio
Jan. 30th, 2002 08:00 am (UTC)
Re: faucet
Strange are the ways of the auto industry. Yours is not to reason why.

Ok, maybe an alternator, then. :-)
estherchaya
Jan. 30th, 2002 09:09 am (UTC)
Re: faucet
You know...I'd really rather have the $600!!
estherchaya
Jan. 30th, 2002 01:28 pm (UTC)
yay!
Hah! I *almost* bought a book made by Home Depot with basically how to fix anything. HOWEVER, I didn't need to waste my birthday gift certificate from Dad! Glad I didn't already buy the book because Home Depot has a page that teaches you how to remove faucets!!
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